Final Republican governor debate focuses on economics, abortion

Republican gubernatorial candidates Jamie Reitenour, left, Suzanne Crouch, Eric Doden, Curtis Hill and Brad Chambers participate in the final debate before the primary. (Credit: Suzanne Crouch campaign)

Apr 24, 2024

INDIANAPOLIS — Five hopefuls vying for the chance to be Indiana’s next governor took each other to task — and at times fought the questions themselves — on economic development, social issues, election integrity and more during Tuesday’s Republican gubernatorial debate hosted at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis. 

The debate, the last of the primary cycle and sponsored by the Indiana Debate Commission, at times spiraled into revolt, as candidates disagreed with moderator Jon Schwantes’ yes-no questions on election integrity and immigration. In other moments, the candidates stuck to their various platforms on taxes, education and beyond. 

Former state Secretary of Commerce Brad Chambers, Lt. Gov. Suzanne Crouch, Fort Wayne businessman Eric Doden, former state Attorney General Curtis Hill and Indianapolis mom Jamie Reitenour participated. 

Sen. Mike Braun, who has thus far led the crowded field in the polls, informed the Debate Commission on Monday that he would not attend the debate. He returned to Washington, D.C., where he cast one of 19 dissenting votes against a $95 billion aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. The bill passed the Senate on a 80-19 vote.

Braun’s rivals targeted him several times in his absence, but the five candidates on stage mostly focused on one another throughout the debate. Gov. Eric Holcomb, a frequent target in previous debates, was hardly mentioned. 

Schwantes, host of the WFYI-FM series “Indiana Lawmakers,” read from a slate of questions submitted in part by state voters and selected by the Debate Commission. 

Election integrity

The night’s first major clash occurred during yes-no questioning on the safety and authenticity of the country’s elections. 

Each candidate except Reitenour said they were confident in Indiana’s election integrity. All acknowledged the 2020 election was not stolen. 

Asked if Joe Biden was the duly elected president, Hill and Reitenour pushed back, saying “anomalies” were not properly investigated. 

The candidates essentially refused to answer a question asking if they would accept the 2024 election results, saying it was too hypothetical. 

Agreement on abortion

Several questions were asked about abortion, though the candidates largely agreed on the issue. 

The group was asked whether the state’s current abortion ban, which includes exceptions for rape, maternal health and other limited circumstances, was sufficient.

Chambers, Doden and Crouch agreed it was. 

Hill called for increased enforcement of the ban, saying the state’s health department is not providing the necessary reports for terminated pregnancies. 

“I brought 2,411 unborn babies from Illinois to have them buried in Indiana to establish their humanity,” Hill said, referencing a 2020 action he took as attorney general. 

Reitenour did not answer the question directly, saying only that “we need to be a state that says we are for life.”

The group refused to answer when Schwantes asked if they agreed with the Indiana Supreme Court, which he said found the maternal health exception to be necessary under state law. 

The candidates also agreed on in vitro fertilization, saying it should be allowed in Indiana. Some conservative states have targeted the procedure as part of the abortion debate. 

Return to the IEDC

The Indiana Economic Development Corp. (IEDC), and particularly its LEAP Innovation District project seeking to build a ready-made space for business in Lebanon, Indiana, was a return topic from past debates. Chambers and Doden previously led the organization, and Chambers rose in defense of the LEAP District. 

Reitenour called the project “putting a whale of a company in the middle of the desert with no water.” 

Doden also directly criticized it, saying the IEDC existed only to help businesses navigate government rules. 

Hill called the IEDC “a shadow government” that needed to be “reined in.”

Crouch used the question to launch into her plan to get rid of the state’s income tax. 

“It’s a terrific contrast between career politicians and small thinking,” Chambers said in response to the criticisms. 

Chambers goes after Crouch

Crouch was asked whether it made financial sense to cut the income tax, which brings in billions in state revenue each year. 

Chambers seized on the topic. 

“It’s a political talking point if ever there was one,” he said. “She has not told us how much she’s going to have to cut education, public safety, police, mental health or health care.”

Crouch doubled down, noting the income tax is already phasing down to below 3% in the coming years. 

“Let’s just keep going in that direction when we have excess surplus in revenues,” she said. 

Differing education approaches

A question about improving Indiana schoolchildren’s test scores led to a contrast in policy approach. 

Doden and Crouch focused on school choice and workplace development. 

Chambers said students require individualized learning opportunities. 

Reitenour railed against critical race theory and social-emotional learning, saying kindergarten through fifth grade students need more focus on educational fundamentals. 

Hill urged schools to stop taking federal money that requires certain programs, which Crouch joined in supporting. 

Closing statements

Candidates were allowed to summarize their candidacy in final closing statements. 

Chambers focused on his economic plan, likening his hopes for the state to his career as a businessman. 

“We believe it’s time for a CEO, someone to run [the state] like a business,” Chambers said. 

Hill leaned into social issues, railing against abortion and claiming “there are only two genders.”

“Don’t let politicians give you a laundry list of conservative talking points and say that’s enough,” Hill said. “Prove you can do the job.”

Doden focused on his platform talking points: restoring small towns, growing the economy and expanding zero-cost adoption. 

“We have more plans in writing than everyone on this stage combined,” Doden said. 

Crouch returned to her key proposal, which would eliminate the state’s income tax. 

“My opponents say it’s a gimmick, but what they’re really saying is the government needs more of your money and you need less of it,” Crouch said. 

Reitenour said God called her to run and cast doubt on Indiana’s conservative reputation. 

“We live in a state that says it’s a red state and believes in conservative values, and yet I am trying to figure out where the conservatives are in government,” she said. 

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